Remembering multiple objects

One of the key exercises in making markers is remembering multiple objects. We have several ways of representing the object that need to be remembered and several strategies to address the memorization task. The task is very similar to remembering several markers scattered across multiple unrelated sources. The subject is being addressed in various forms on the blog. Here are some discussions from our Udemy blog.

Vinayak Vedantam : Just jumped from 19 to 36 on the Camera Mind Game!Kevin Greto

That did help, at first I wash making shapes/turning the dots into graphs, but grouping the dots via numbers helped a lot. Just got 22 (best before was 21)

Dr. Lev Gold

This is interesting. I never played the game. The methodology recommended by experts involves grouping objects into groups of 5-7 and assigning a word to remind them, like with star constellations. Please see if it help you above level 30…

Daynelis

I just got 31. using the method of grouping and counting how many in each group. 1 did a group of 2.

Gavin Feriancek : Questions about Markers and Clarity on the goal of the excersise.

Okay, I’ll start with the goal of the exercise, and try to be brief!

1 In the lecture, you had us pick out 10 – 20 concepts from a Wikipedia article (such as California or WWII) and then see if we can recall them. (In chronological order for an extra challenge). Is the goal here to simply be able to recall those concepts themselves and practice making useful markers, or are we actually trying to tie them all together and how they relate to the subject matter? (In case of the latter, it would essentially mean that we have to tie all of the markers to similar memories to be able to recall them together, yes?)

2. On to the actual markers themselves, are they meant to be universal in the sense that if I make a marker for the word “headache” while going through Japanese Vocab, then if I were to later down the road read an article about how coffee can affect headaches, I would recall the same marker used before? (If this is the case, I could foresee a Marker deck being added to Anki!)

3. Does it matter if the markers are simply akin to an icon or logo, or should they be more like a short scene that plays in your head?

4. Finally, should the markers follow a path along the lines of “Marker -> Leads to recalling of personal Memories -> Leads to you recalling the concept” OR “Marker -> Instantly leads to recalling the concept -> Leads to memories which reinforces the concept”. Sorry if this part isn’t too clear! D:

Thanks in advanced for reading such a large post! I very well might have overthought things, but I would like to make sure of things so that I practice correctly. 😀

Dr. Lev Gold

I am rewriting some stuff. Please try http://www.keytostudy.com/category/exercises/ instead.

Roy Askins

I followed the link, but it doesn’t answer the questions Gavin. I’m wondering the same things. Is each “concept” supposed to have its own image?

Dr. Lev Gold

You have full control over it. I prefer to have an object per paragraph and then encode details as object attributes. Like 139088 is a black (13 unlucky) cat (9 lifes) with a trellis (88 is like 4 petals) on its ass.

Jonathan A. Levi

Admittedly, Lev’s way of creating markers is very advanced…
Answers to your questions:
Yes – the goal is to create vivid markers and try to inter-relate them for better memory. You should practice this skill and you will see that the more you link markers (and the more detail you apply to each one) the better your results will be
Yes and no. As I understand Lev, he actually has universal markers for most common topics he encounters. In reality, I do not; I go with whatever image pops into my head when I start reading, and generally the same marker pops up many times in the same text. However, if I read about a coffee cup today, it may be red, whereas tomorrow, it may be yellow. I’m not sure why it is that the coffee cup changes colors for me often (perhaps a visit to a Freudian psychologist would explain, haha!), but it’s irrelevant, as long as I picture it in vivid detail. Sometimes the coffee inside has milk and steam, sometimes it’s just black coffee. It’s not super important to have the same image each time if it doesn’t come natural to you, but it IS super important to have a detailed image, so you can connect it to all the various memories you have around coffee cups in general. Get my point?
An icon or logo is more than sufficient. My marker for R&D is literally the Apple XCode application logo!
Hmm… never thought about this one. It’s more like this: Marker -> Leads to all thoughts and emotions and sensations around the concept, including the one you just inserted. For example, when I visualize a marker of Steve Jobs, it goes into this cloud of thoughts and emotions and pictures I have of Steve Jobs, though I’m picturing one specific image of him (surprisingly, NOT the image on the cover of his biography). There’s no separation between the marker and the memory, it all just hits me at once.
Hope that’s helpful!

Gavin Feriancek

I apologize for the late response! I’ve been busy! (Working 7 days a week.)

First off, thanks Lev for the link; your site has a good amount of info, and the posts will only keep growing!

Secondly, Jonathan, thank you for your in-depth answer. It really helped clear up my questions, and set me on the right track! I can agree, that it does seem quite advanced, but then, it’s also one of those things that you have explained and then it just makes total sense why it works. It’ll be more than worth it to put in the time to develop that skill. 🙂 (And it’ll make my language learning MUCH easier. :D)

Thank you, both Dr. Lev and Johnathan, for your time spent answering my questions and for this great course!